Pagans get their 'authority' from the same place that every other religion gets their 'authority': Revelation.
A 'father' who does not possess the spirituality necessary to maintain the ancestral faith is worse than having no faith at all.
This is the problem with trying to apply the 'Ancestral Principle' as if the *principle* guarantees the reality, when it's other way around.
To me, the difference between 'paganism' and the Abrahamic faiths that the White West is currently dealing with whether there is any chance at all that one of these faiths will take a pro-White turn and defend the race instead of merely being a parasite on it (Christianity) or an implacable enemy (Judaism, Islam).
One of the great weaknesses of the Right is the belief that the solutions to contemporary problems lie in the past. But to hold that position, the Right has to ignore that 'the past' was how they got to the very 'the present' they despise.
'Tradition' is a coagulation of human creativity under exposure to external forces. It's not an independent force nor is it more important than human creativity or the external forces. It's a secondary phenomenon. Reifying 'tradition' just leads to an inability to adapt when circumstances (external forces) change.
The Right seems to be attracted to the safety and comfort of a reified past. But every form of reification obscures the agency of Whites in the creation of the very thing that is now brought to confront them as 'superior' to them.
White culture exists in an equilibrium between reification of the decisions of the past and the creative impulses of Whites to make everything anew with each new birth.
'Authority' arises out of this equilibrium but is always and only ever as good as the last decision it made.
The reason patriarchy is on the ropes is because it doesn't have a good answer for 'What have you done for the White race lately?'
There are two principles that can be drawn from the past to meet today’s and future’s challenges.
1) Pursue arete (excellence) in your mind, heart, body, and blood for the greater glory of your Gods and nation. To pursue arete is to open yourself to both tradition and innovation that might offer a solution to a problem today. It enable us to make use of both reason and intuition, study and creativity, to meet the emerging challenges that meet us. Odysseus would be the model for use.
2) The good morality is what increase the strength, wisdom, temperance, and fecundity of a man and his nation. Bad morality degrade these attributes. This move us away from the abstract theory of the “good” and to focus on the results.
This is our greatest problem today, too many are caught up in the the Platonic Ideal of Good and refused to see whether our philosophy or ideology are actually getting the results. Much less putting the deadline on it. The marketing gurus love having money to play around with it but hate, hate the idea of actually measuring the ROI in their marketing with things like A/B test of two slightly different ad copies to see which perform better. Same with ideology. The Anal Empire is very post-ideological. These foxes will change ideologies like a woman on the runway in order to increase their power and money. Meanwhile, they use ideologies to confound and divide people who shouldn’t be confused or divided. If they were actually focusing on the results. Which is what the Empire doesn’t wanted. They will try to get them arguing over the Bible, the Founders, science, stuff. To keep their eyes off the ball.
Yes, with the additional comment that the greatest productivity increases for a human system comes from raising up the 'average' participant, not from making the superior more superior. Our enemies have mobilized this insight to encourage their 'foot-soldiers' to be ever-better at pursuing the ends of their leaders. I cannot see the same drive to 'improve the middle' in 'the Right'.
When people point to Christianity, I tell them, “Both Judaism and Christianity are the shadows cast by the Hellenic sun, so why bother with the shadows?” Plato inspired Genesis. David was modeled on the Greek hero who is both warrior and musician. Moses was based on Lycurgus of Sparta. Israel was modeled on the Greek polis. Jesus was clearly a mixture of Apollo and Dionysus, and some speculated that they are the same person with different emanations like the Hindu gods. Even idol-free worship wasn’t new. The Iranian tribes tends to have no image, only sacred fire, graves, and a sword. Even monogamy wasn’t new with Christianity as it’s common to most of the PIE people as their ancestor cult requires legitimate son by a lawful wife to assume his father’s office before the hearth and tomb. In fact, the only time it was brought up was in Paul’s letter in which he advised that the bishops should only have one wife. It’s clear that the leader would be interacting with the Roman authorities and they looked down on polygyny.
Interesting. I am not convinced that, "Because Dad said so", is a correct interpretation nor if it is, that is a good basis for authority. Maybe, Dad and these other Great Dads said so, and here is why.
As for the Pinker take it is quite convenient and easy to forget that science and engineering permeated the Greco-Roman world. In fact, it was Renaissance Europe that looked back and realized the Greeks invented science and the scientific method and made many discoveries. As an example, Galileo was thousands of years late developing the heliocentric model of the world and the Greeks used math to compute the relative size and distances of the sun, earth and moon to each other, amongst many material and methodological discoveries and inventions.
They also understood that mythology and religion encoded wisdom and knowledge and that it was foolish to dispense with it. It is the mediocre who think they have discovered something new, but who rely on chopping off the arms and legs of historical knowledge to attain an appearance of novelty.
Pagans get their 'authority' from the same place that every other religion gets their 'authority': Revelation.
A 'father' who does not possess the spirituality necessary to maintain the ancestral faith is worse than having no faith at all.
This is the problem with trying to apply the 'Ancestral Principle' as if the *principle* guarantees the reality, when it's other way around.
To me, the difference between 'paganism' and the Abrahamic faiths that the White West is currently dealing with whether there is any chance at all that one of these faiths will take a pro-White turn and defend the race instead of merely being a parasite on it (Christianity) or an implacable enemy (Judaism, Islam).
One of the great weaknesses of the Right is the belief that the solutions to contemporary problems lie in the past. But to hold that position, the Right has to ignore that 'the past' was how they got to the very 'the present' they despise.
'Tradition' is a coagulation of human creativity under exposure to external forces. It's not an independent force nor is it more important than human creativity or the external forces. It's a secondary phenomenon. Reifying 'tradition' just leads to an inability to adapt when circumstances (external forces) change.
The Right seems to be attracted to the safety and comfort of a reified past. But every form of reification obscures the agency of Whites in the creation of the very thing that is now brought to confront them as 'superior' to them.
White culture exists in an equilibrium between reification of the decisions of the past and the creative impulses of Whites to make everything anew with each new birth.
'Authority' arises out of this equilibrium but is always and only ever as good as the last decision it made.
The reason patriarchy is on the ropes is because it doesn't have a good answer for 'What have you done for the White race lately?'
There are two principles that can be drawn from the past to meet today’s and future’s challenges.
1) Pursue arete (excellence) in your mind, heart, body, and blood for the greater glory of your Gods and nation. To pursue arete is to open yourself to both tradition and innovation that might offer a solution to a problem today. It enable us to make use of both reason and intuition, study and creativity, to meet the emerging challenges that meet us. Odysseus would be the model for use.
2) The good morality is what increase the strength, wisdom, temperance, and fecundity of a man and his nation. Bad morality degrade these attributes. This move us away from the abstract theory of the “good” and to focus on the results.
This is our greatest problem today, too many are caught up in the the Platonic Ideal of Good and refused to see whether our philosophy or ideology are actually getting the results. Much less putting the deadline on it. The marketing gurus love having money to play around with it but hate, hate the idea of actually measuring the ROI in their marketing with things like A/B test of two slightly different ad copies to see which perform better. Same with ideology. The Anal Empire is very post-ideological. These foxes will change ideologies like a woman on the runway in order to increase their power and money. Meanwhile, they use ideologies to confound and divide people who shouldn’t be confused or divided. If they were actually focusing on the results. Which is what the Empire doesn’t wanted. They will try to get them arguing over the Bible, the Founders, science, stuff. To keep their eyes off the ball.
Yes, with the additional comment that the greatest productivity increases for a human system comes from raising up the 'average' participant, not from making the superior more superior. Our enemies have mobilized this insight to encourage their 'foot-soldiers' to be ever-better at pursuing the ends of their leaders. I cannot see the same drive to 'improve the middle' in 'the Right'.
When people point to Christianity, I tell them, “Both Judaism and Christianity are the shadows cast by the Hellenic sun, so why bother with the shadows?” Plato inspired Genesis. David was modeled on the Greek hero who is both warrior and musician. Moses was based on Lycurgus of Sparta. Israel was modeled on the Greek polis. Jesus was clearly a mixture of Apollo and Dionysus, and some speculated that they are the same person with different emanations like the Hindu gods. Even idol-free worship wasn’t new. The Iranian tribes tends to have no image, only sacred fire, graves, and a sword. Even monogamy wasn’t new with Christianity as it’s common to most of the PIE people as their ancestor cult requires legitimate son by a lawful wife to assume his father’s office before the hearth and tomb. In fact, the only time it was brought up was in Paul’s letter in which he advised that the bishops should only have one wife. It’s clear that the leader would be interacting with the Roman authorities and they looked down on polygyny.
Again, why bother with the shadows?
Interesting. I am not convinced that, "Because Dad said so", is a correct interpretation nor if it is, that is a good basis for authority. Maybe, Dad and these other Great Dads said so, and here is why.
As for the Pinker take it is quite convenient and easy to forget that science and engineering permeated the Greco-Roman world. In fact, it was Renaissance Europe that looked back and realized the Greeks invented science and the scientific method and made many discoveries. As an example, Galileo was thousands of years late developing the heliocentric model of the world and the Greeks used math to compute the relative size and distances of the sun, earth and moon to each other, amongst many material and methodological discoveries and inventions.
They also understood that mythology and religion encoded wisdom and knowledge and that it was foolish to dispense with it. It is the mediocre who think they have discovered something new, but who rely on chopping off the arms and legs of historical knowledge to attain an appearance of novelty.